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Post by Aeon Kensho™ on Feb 20, 2007 17:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by reyvan on Feb 20, 2007 18:27:33 GMT -5
I believe that, as Wookieepedia says, it was an injury caused by a Lightsaber.
Although once i saw a comic strip of Revan raising the indicator and middle finger, hitting him on the jaw. The rest is up to your imagination. ;D
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Post by jerrekdromas on Feb 20, 2007 19:45:26 GMT -5
Those pics came from the game right? I thought that it said something about it on there. Maybe I am wrong.
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Post by Darth Caedus on Mar 1, 2007 18:17:16 GMT -5
Malak is so cool.
- Dark Anakin Skywalker
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Post by Darth Valrum on Mar 3, 2007 19:07:19 GMT -5
Malak is so cool. - Dark Anakin Skywalker That was kind of off topic. But im not sure as to why Malak got his jaw removed. Either it was in some battle before Kotor took place, Or Revan put malak in line! haha
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Post by Darth Atrox on Mar 11, 2007 3:03:36 GMT -5
He got it during the mandalorian wars while dueling in battle. Many mandalorians took lightsabers as trophies and used them in battle, he encountered one such opponent who was able to strike his face and cause extreme damage to his jaw, it had to be replaced by a mechanical attachment.
This was before he turned to the dark side. In KOTOR II the exile (if dark) remarks on how much of a prissy wuss Malak was before tasting real power. His skills in battle were probably enhanced by his extreme use of the dark side, before that he was a mediocore fighter.
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Post by reyvan on Mar 11, 2007 6:57:55 GMT -5
Source please?
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Post by Darth Atrox on Mar 11, 2007 16:56:45 GMT -5
It is a bit of speculation on my part, but I pieced together bits of information with some guesswork to come up with the theory. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Malakstarwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_MalakNow, I do realize what I said is mostly a theory, I didn't mean to pass it off as "fact". I've also read that he was a reckless fighter and would leap into battle. This being before/during the war, before they both turned. Many mandalorians used light sabers from fallen jedi they had killed to incite fear in their enemies. It says a light saber duel, and since there were no dark jedi involved in the war, that I know of, and Reven and Malak did not turn until after the war (there fore eliminating another jedi dealing the blow) I am "assuming" he rushed into a duel with a light saber wielding mandalorian (something which would not have been uncommon due to the large amount of jedi killed) and lost his jaw for his trouble. Just a theory, but it's the most believable and realistic one I can come up with.
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Post by reyvan on Mar 11, 2007 17:45:49 GMT -5
Hey, i just remembered, didn't Malak get his injury AFTER the Mandalorian Wars?
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Post by Aeon Kensho™ on Mar 11, 2007 17:49:07 GMT -5
I myself still like the theory of Malak being punished by Revan for insolence.In the visions both in KOTOR and KOTOR 2 Malak was not soft spoken,So this seems very possible.
Also it states that Malak grudgingly took the role of apprentice.Maybe even Revan did it to him while making him take the role.We all the the Sith way is the Master Defeats the apprentice to show him he is more powerful,Since Malak was stated as being such a reckless fighter this also makes sense.
I don't think it was a Mandalorian,Malak was a very skilled fighter.,It took Revan to defeat him,While Mandalorians are skilled with blades sabers are completely different.It just gets down to Revan was the Jedi of the time,More cunning more powerful,and smarter.Malak was a punk and died a punk as the coward he was.
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Post by Darth Atrox on Mar 11, 2007 21:50:34 GMT -5
Hey, i just remembered, didn't Malak get his injury AFTER the Mandalorian Wars? It is unknown AFAIK. But I do believe it was during the war, and here is why: During your characters flashbacks on Dantooine it shows Revan and Malak entering the ruins to read the star forge map. Malak comments how if they do this they can never go back, and will surely be banished from the order, meaning they are still a part of it. Now, during the course of the story you learn that they went off to the war on a conquest of power, which I believe to be the quest for the star forge, as well as their eagerness to fight the Mandalorians and came back "changed" and leading a army of dark jedi. Due to Malak's comment of being banished, meaning they are still part of the order, and knowing from the story line that after the war they came back as 'brutal, conquering sith" I can assume the flashback is BEFORE they left for the mandalorian crusades, and already had started down the path of the dark side, but were still very much a part of the Jedi order. Surely it would have been mentioned that DARTH Revan and DARTH Malak both set foot on Dantooine after the war? And why would they be worried about being banished if they were already brutal sith, as the story tells us they turned into after coming back from the war? No, that flashback took place before the war, and Malak's jaw was still intact. It leads me to believe he lost it during the war, as we never see him as a Sith without his metalic mouth piece, and he became a sith at the wars end. Only as a Jedi during and before the war do we see him without injuries. This does not prove anything, it is merely speculation. But until we get a concrete answer as to exactly how he lost his jaw speculation will have to suffice lol.
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Post by Aeon Kensho™ on Mar 12, 2007 17:23:01 GMT -5
It states that in the game Revan didn't fall until the end of the Mandalorians wars on the outer rim.When Revan was faced with the brutatlity of Mandalorian war tactics,And Revan fought fire with fire.This is what started his fall,Yes the Starforge did play a part.
But it is very clear in the vision of Revan and Malak on dantooine that Malak didn't turn to the darkside yet.His appearance wasn't changed.Malak also feared the Darkside,this was very clear.It makes sense that Malak would continue to debate what if?Revan didn't care.It makes sense that Malak would continued to argue.It also makes sense from the Darklord's position that you would get tired of this,And teach him a lesson.The injury fits the crime.You would silence him,And Malak would make sure to not argue or step out of line again.From there Malak would want revenge.He might be spiteful enough to fire on his masters ship.A cowardly attempt to kill him,Not the sith way.The powerful rule.Of course these are theories but they seem to make sense.
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Post by Darth Atrox on Mar 12, 2007 17:30:07 GMT -5
Many fans think the same way. They think Revan sliced it off to put him in his place. It makes sense, because Malak was very power hungry and impatient. It is also possible it was during the war, but we don't know for sure and won't until we hear it from some official source.
Funny how Malak wouldn't mention it though. He mentions about power and control and being the master now, blah, blah, blah. He never mentions to Revan the injury. He never mentions it at all. If Revan were to have caused it, wouldn't he mention it to him during the game at one point?
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the story writers didn't even know how he got it at that point, so no mention at all was made and they purposely left it open to mass speculation lol.
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Post by Darth Bane on Apr 10, 2007 22:02:44 GMT -5
thank's for this new info was wondering what was up with his chin
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Post by Rolet on May 15, 2007 14:33:15 GMT -5
Anyone notice in that pic with Malak and the Sith Troopers that there apprears to be two Darth Banes behind him? LOL
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