JADE Light (Skywalker)
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Post by JADE Light (Skywalker) on Mar 14, 2007 23:30:57 GMT -5
The FIRST time you ever heard Vader Say..... "NO... I am your Father..." What went through your head? Did you believe him? Did you think him a liar? Did you already know? Did you sense it with his discussions with Sidious? What went through your head? Who did you side with? Did you side with Luke not believing or Vader telling the (what we know now to be) Truth? I am really curious about this one. Some saw it in 77 Some in the 80'z Some were told and it ruined it for them!!!!!!!!!! LOL Me I kinda knew. I knew he was protecting the boy and the only reason he would do that would be because he needed him... so when he explained he was his father I TOTALLY believed him... it figured so many of my unanswered Questions out. I had a milliion Questions before that moment. Mz JADE LIGHT
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Post by Lordjoshua420 on Mar 21, 2007 0:03:17 GMT -5
after i heard it i did believe it you could tell that there was something obi-wan wasn't telling luke about his father, and it seemed like an interesting twist, it didn't seem like a trick i felt vader was telling the truth
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Post by Darth Caedus on Apr 2, 2007 8:07:20 GMT -5
It sucks because before I even saw any of the films I knew that Darth Vader was Luke Skywalker's father, when I wasn't even really into Star Wars or knew what it was about, so when I heard that my only thoughts were "I already know" lol. I wish I could have gone to see it for the first time when no one knew it and I would have loved to feel the shock of when it was first said. I wasn't even born until 1987 though.
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Darth Tollo
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Post by Darth Tollo on Apr 2, 2007 10:39:30 GMT -5
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Post by Obiwan-kemal on Apr 2, 2007 13:03:27 GMT -5
the film was out there before i was born. so i knew luke was Vader's son.
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Post by JëÐï PãÐãWãN on Apr 12, 2007 6:05:43 GMT -5
the first time i heard those words, all i could say was "what?! no way!" but then, it kinda sunk in and i was like "thats so swsome. how is luke going to deal with this. hes just having quite a bad day" i believed vader
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Post by Darth Caedus on Apr 18, 2007 6:52:36 GMT -5
I think I would have believe Vader if I didn't know, and I would be kind of confused, but really excited too, and it would be agony waiting for ROTJ to come out lol.
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~Rogue Jedi~
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Post by ~Rogue Jedi~ on May 14, 2007 3:10:19 GMT -5
I was a wee lad, I didnt grasp it until after i saw ROTJ.
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Post by Cobalt60 on May 24, 2007 0:15:15 GMT -5
I was ten in 1980 when I saw it int he theater and I was stunned. the reason it works so well is because of the way they introduce vader's character in 1977, invading the rebel ship and strangling that guy, we wonder if he's even human inside that suit. then we learn that this "thing" is what killed our hero's father and that becomes the reason we hate him as a villian. we don't know anything else about him really, except that HE killed Luke's Father. and we don't know anything about Luke's father, really, except that he was some kind of martyr, killed by the ultimate villian LOL. and this gives Luke purpose so the father and the villian were used to define each other, from the start. and what's more, the father and the villian are ALSO used to define the hero's purpose; they are the reasons why he's EVEN fighting the battle (and getting his ass kicked) in the first place. the image of the dead father becomes BOTH the reason why we hate the villain AND the reason why we empathize for the hero but then when we realise that the villian IS luke's father, it unravels the entire package. you're sitting there thinking "thats impossible" because your mind is racing to re-process the hero's motivation. how can luke's father be the martyr that drives him AND the villain he hates, both at the same time? and how does this effect Luke's purpose for fighting the battle in the first place, when he's only fighting FOR the image of the dead father. in that moment, it didn't just redefine darth vader as the villian, it redefined the hero (and his reasons for fighting the conflict) it took away the motivation behind Luke's fight and left you almost half-wishing that he would give up and join the dark side (JUST to resolve the character's PREVIOUS motivation, to be close to his dead father). ie: in that moment, it seemed that the only way for Luke to "win" the defining conflict of his character, was to LOSE the conflict altogether and be taken to the emperor and thats exactly the fate which the audience was afraid of when he went to face vader in the first place. for a ten year old watching it in the theater is felt like a train-wreck going out of control and, no matter what happened, vader was going to win. as your mind raced to "re-process" everything, you knew right there and then, it was all over. everything luke had ever fought for was turned upside down and rendered moot. he might as well just give up. (meaning: the revelation changed our perception of the hero as much as it changed our perception of the villian. I seriously thought that Luke would take vaders hand at the end and become just like vader. that was luke's stated goal in 1977 afterall, to "learn the ways of the force and become a jedi LIKE MY FATHER"; the image of the father was always used to define luke's own motivations in the eyes of the audience. so suddenly, the audience didn't know what to expect from him anymore) --> it would have been SOOOOO cool if he would have joined the dark side right there and then,. and left the "return of the jedi" in the hands of Leia. ESB would have been the DARKEST movie of all time (heh) with han and luke both captured at the end. Leia would be left alone to discover her potential in the beginning of the third chapter, and then go off to face Luke&Vader KNOWING FULL WELL that she couldn't possibly win.. but with the plan to turn luke around to the light side and together they would defeat the sith. the rest could go as planned: vader has to kill the emperor in the end in order to save his kid(s) and everything is "peaches&roses" for anakin's ghost. the end.
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Jedi Jack
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Post by Jedi Jack on Jun 6, 2007 11:27:56 GMT -5
i didn't know what to believe at first but when Luke got rescued and he was on the ship laying down and the image of Darth Vader appeared and Luke said "father!" and Darth Vader said "son" i kinda knew after that.
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Post by greyjedi4life on Jun 6, 2007 12:12:54 GMT -5
i already knew vader was luke's fater how could you not.
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Post by Stay Alive on Jun 6, 2007 12:24:17 GMT -5
being born in 92 before i even saw the films i knew everything nothing was a secret by then
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Post by Seanconnelly on Jun 13, 2007 22:25:37 GMT -5
When I first saw it I did believe it, however I was very young when I first saw it so I can't quite remember exactly what was going through my head. Although it was probably something like this, "Daangg...no wonder he's been holding back on Luke this entire time."
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Dirge
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Post by Dirge on Sept 20, 2007 12:22:52 GMT -5
the way i see it i know and look vader still has a soft spot from all of those years of killing jedi and the weak
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Post by Cadeus on Oct 24, 2007 17:24:58 GMT -5
My dad didnt spoil it for me and I was born after they had been out for quite a bit. So i was like, HEH?
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