Aeon Kensho™
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Post by Aeon Kensho™ on Feb 23, 2007 18:53:26 GMT -5
For me this was the last straw in the movie.Greedo shooting first was bad enough.The changing of old Anakin at the end of ROTJ.It was replaced with young Anakin which makes no sense.It was supposed to be the man you saw in the suit.The other Jedi are old.It is just weak! I myself think the original is far better.Showing the older Anakin shows us that he died as Anakin not Vader.
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Post by Darth Caedus on Mar 1, 2007 17:36:42 GMT -5
Hayden Christenson IS Anakin Skywalker. When you die and come back as a ghost through the force you appear the same as you did when you were last a true Jedi. The last time Anakin was a Jedi was when he was 23 years old. Without little changes like this to accomodate the new trilogy the 2 trilogy's dont go so well together. They have NO characters in common, so it is hard for them to feel part of the same storyline as all of the characters looks different. I LOVE the fact that Hayden was in ROTJ, it brings the whole saga together in my opinion and ties the first 3 films together with the last 3.
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Post by Aeon Kensho™ on Mar 1, 2007 17:40:43 GMT -5
He became Anakin again before he died.It was why he didn't have Sith eyes when luke removed the mask.So really the last time he was a Jedi was when he grabbed the Emperor and threw him off the side.So it makes more sense to me that the older redeemed wiser Anakin was at the end.Obi-wan was old,It makes sense that Anakin be old too.He did die a Jedi,So I liked the original
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Post by Darth Caedus on Mar 1, 2007 18:11:50 GMT -5
But he was a battered scarred frail old man. You return to the time when you was last a Jedi and strongest in the force. The last time he was a Jedi and strong in the force was when he was 23.
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Post by reyvan on Mar 1, 2007 18:18:40 GMT -5
Both have valid points about Anakin, yet while i do prefer Christensen, they should have left out Sebastian.
Btw, i don't see the problem with Greedo shooting first...
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Post by Jayman87 on Mar 1, 2007 18:28:10 GMT -5
The problem with Greedo shooting first is two fold: One, it slightly changes Han's character. We're supposed to see him develop from selfish anti-hero to the rebel hero. Two, Greedo misses at POINT BLANK RANGE. The Hayden thing I have mixed feelings about however.
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Post by Aeon Kensho™ on Mar 1, 2007 18:32:02 GMT -5
Anakin was much stronger as his old age.When he was Vader he could could someone from across the galaxy just by thinking of it.While he did lose to Luke in ROTJ,He was very strong still.In ESB Vader is destroying the whole room with his mind.No doubt he was the stronger when older all Jedi were even with his mutilation.
And the big deal about Greedo shooting first was it takes away from the fact that Han Solo was a low life and shot Greedo like the scoundrel he was.Not some cheesy him sliding to the side and then shooting.It just like the Jabba scene,Jabba wasn't like that at all.Not even in TPM.And one thing is for sure Jabba is an Human being at all.In that added scene Han says"Jabba you are a wonderful human being".While it is very clear he is none of the above,They shot that scene when they weren't sure what Jabba was.They just weren't as good as the originals.
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Post by JëÐï PãÐãWãN on Apr 12, 2007 6:19:42 GMT -5
if it aint broke, dont fix it...
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Post by Rolet on Apr 15, 2007 22:21:00 GMT -5
I'm just gonna say that I like the new Anakin in ROTJ more than the old one.....And Greedo shot first for sure.
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Post by Zaos Felreave on Apr 15, 2007 23:14:16 GMT -5
i think han was insulting Jabba when he said that, but thats just my opinion.
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Post by Darth Catharsis on Apr 16, 2007 0:14:55 GMT -5
Hayden Christenson IS Anakin Skywalker. When you die and come back as a ghost through the force you appear the same as you did when you were last a true Jedi. The last time Anakin was a Jedi was when he was 23 years old. Without little changes like this to accomodate the new trilogy the 2 trilogy's dont go so well together. They have NO characters in common, so it is hard for them to feel part of the same storyline as all of the characters looks different. I LOVE the fact that Hayden was in ROTJ, it brings the whole saga together in my opinion and ties the first 3 films together with the last 3. - Dark Anakin Skywalker No characters in common huh? What about Sidious or C3PO or R2D2 or Yoda, or even Vader. He did appear as Vadery Vader at the end of ep. 3. I have to agree with Aeon, Greedo didn’t shoot first and old Anakin should have stayed.
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Post by Lord Brama on Apr 17, 2007 19:24:08 GMT -5
I can see a small point as to why it is changed to the Hayden visage.
Once anakin became Darth Vader at the end of Epi3 it was then that Anakin died. As said by Obiwan later on in ANH. "Vader Killed your father." So would that not be the age that Anakin died?
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Post by Krex Tonobie on Apr 17, 2007 23:41:30 GMT -5
personally i prefer the originals with out the special edition crap in them Ive just never liked the new stuff they added a whole lot, I'm extremely glad they released the originals on dvd,Han shot first and anakin is Sebastian not Hayden in ROTJ
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Post by Darth Caedus on Apr 18, 2007 7:06:37 GMT -5
Hayden Christenson IS Anakin Skywalker. When you die and come back as a ghost through the force you appear the same as you did when you were last a true Jedi. The last time Anakin was a Jedi was when he was 23 years old. Without little changes like this to accomodate the new trilogy the 2 trilogy's dont go so well together. They have NO characters in common, so it is hard for them to feel part of the same storyline as all of the characters looks different. I LOVE the fact that Hayden was in ROTJ, it brings the whole saga together in my opinion and ties the first 3 films together with the last 3. - Dark Anakin Skywalker No characters in common huh? What about Sidious or C3PO or R2D2 or Yoda, or even Vader. He did appear as Vadery Vader at the end of ep. 3. I have to agree with Aeon, Greedo didn’t shoot first and old Anakin should have stayed. Yes but they feel like different characters, they don't seem like the same characters that were in ROTS, the only ones that do are C3PO and R2. There is just something different about them in the OT, and I think, as well as a lot of my friends, that their is something missing in the way of joining the first 3 movies and the last 3 movies. There is something lost. Vader was stronger before he was in his suit. When he was in his suit he became slower, and weaker and his confidence in his abilities were massively shaken. - Darth Vader II
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Post by Obiwan-kemal on Apr 21, 2007 9:16:30 GMT -5
i think the new version is perfect. haden is the face of vader.lucas knows what he is doing. luke turns around and sees his father as he was a jedi. he is redeemed.anakin rejoins obi wan and yoda.every thing is "BACK" the way it was. it's perfect.
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