Sith-A Species?

[Aeon Kensho™]

Has anyone ever seen that is says the sith were a species at one time,I m sure they killed each other out vying for power.I swear it was in KOTOR i saw it.I am going to study up on it.They said that Jedi had found the sith teachings and took up the Ideals of the Sith.So at one time the sith were actually a Species this facinates me.I am going to study and see what I can find.If anyone had any information please fill me in.

[Lord Sidious II]

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_%28species%29

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[Aeon Kensho™]

Nice thanks

[AV™ The Unforgiving]

You are correct my friend. Sith were once an ancient species native to Korriban. After the exiled Jedi settled on Korriban the Sith were enslaved and over thousands of years the two races became one. An example of this would be Marka Ragnos.

[Aeon Kensho™]

the exiled Jedi enslaved the Sith?Really I thought it would have went the other way around.Since it's their planet and they were dedicated to the Darkside of the Force

[Lord Sidious II]

they werent civilzed or high tech like there dark-jedi invaders, so they were easily enslaved, and yes Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow are examples of the hybrids

[Aeon Kensho™]

I see that makes sense.Cool thanks I will continue to study this.It is a subject that fascinates me!

[AV™ The Unforgiving]

Yeah it is a very intresting topic, and Kenobi is right. The Sith were easily enslaved as they were inferior to the Dark Jedi. The Dark Jedi used these enslaved Sith to build their temples and the Valley of the Dark Lords. The Human/Sith hybrid however died out approximatley 5,000 years bby (give or take) and the Sith became more of an ideal than an actaul race.

[Jayman87]

Are we referring to the same thing as the "true Sith"? My Sith lore is not what it used to be, but isn't most information regarding them ambiguous? I'm not trying to debunk the Korriban hybrid stuff, because I know that's true, but what about the ones that supposedly lay far beyond the Outer Rim? Do you suppose they're the same thing? Only time will tell I guess, as it's speculated that KOTOR 3 will deal with these "true Sith".

[AV™ The Unforgiving]

True Sith are extinct and have been for thousands of years. This is proved in KOTOR 1. Where do you get the idea there are more ambigious Sith beyond the outer rim?

[Jayman87]

All the talk of Revan knowing of a greater threat that lays beyond the Outer Rim, KOTOR 2 is chock full of it, and it is implied that these are the "true" Sith.

Into the unknown

"Savior, conqueror, hero, villain. You are all things, Revan… and yet you are nothing. In the end, you belong to neither the light nor the darkness. You will forever stand alone."
—Darth Malak [src]

A year after the defeat of Malak and the collapse of the Sith Empire, Revan left the Republic, having remembered the remnants of the ancient "True Sith" he had rediscovered as the Dark Lord. Hoping to put an end to the threat it posed before it could attack the weakened Republic, Revan bade farewell to the nine comrades who had accompanied him on his quest, knowing that none whom he loved could safely accompany him in the places he had to walk.

He entrusted Carth Onasi with the Republic's safety, Canderous Ordo with reviving the Mandalorians, and said goodbye to Bastila. "It would have helped," Kreia would later remark, "had he made her understand. But she was always strong-willed, that one, and did not understand war as Revan did." Then Revan disappeared, leaving Ebon Hawk with T3-M4 and HK-47 on Malachor V, on the edge of the Unknown Regions.

In time, T3 returned to known space aboard the Ebon Hawk seeking aid to combat a new threat to the Galaxy. The droid found the "Jedi Exile". Whether it was Revan who sent T3 on that mission would remain unknown. When the Exile questioned him, T3-M4 had little to say on the matter and by that time the navigational computer of Ebon Hawk had been secured with a voice-printed lockout system so that no one except T3 could access the ship's flight records. A likely explanation was that the droid was attempting to keep Revan's plans and final destination a secret. After the Exile completed her campaign against the Sith Triumvirate with the destruction of Malachor V, Ebon Hawk and her crew began a search for Revan, hoping to aid him in his battle.

[Darth Caedus]

obiwan13 said:

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_%28species%29

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Wow thanks for that, that was really interesting and most informative.

- Dark Anakin

[Jayman87]

I guess no one has any speculation/information on the subject then.

[AV™ The Unforgiving]

jayman87 said:

All the talk of Revan knowing of a greater threat that lays beyond the Outer Rim, KOTOR 2 is chock full of it, and it is implied that these are the "true" Sith.

Into the unknown

"Savior, conqueror, hero, villain. You are all things, Revan… and yet you are nothing. In the end, you belong to neither the light nor the darkness. You will forever stand alone."
—Darth Malak [src]

A year after the defeat of Malak and the collapse of the Sith Empire, Revan left the Republic, having remembered the remnants of the ancient "True Sith" he had rediscovered as the Dark Lord. Hoping to put an end to the threat it posed before it could attack the weakened Republic, Revan bade farewell to the nine comrades who had accompanied him on his quest, knowing that none whom he loved could safely accompany him in the places he had to walk.

He entrusted Carth Onasi with the Republic's safety, Canderous Ordo with reviving the Mandalorians, and said goodbye to Bastila. "It would have helped," Kreia would later remark, "had he made her understand. But she was always strong-willed, that one, and did not understand war as Revan did." Then Revan disappeared, leaving Ebon Hawk with T3-M4 and HK-47 on Malachor V, on the edge of the Unknown Regions.

In time, T3 returned to known space aboard the Ebon Hawk seeking aid to combat a new threat to the Galaxy. The droid found the "Jedi Exile". Whether it was Revan who sent T3 on that mission would remain unknown. When the Exile questioned him, T3-M4 had little to say on the matter and by that time the navigational computer of Ebon Hawk had been secured with a voice-printed lockout system so that no one except T3 could access the ship's flight records. A likely explanation was that the droid was attempting to keep Revan's plans and final destination a secret. After the Exile completed her campaign against the Sith Triumvirate with the destruction of Malachor V, Ebon Hawk and her crew began a search for Revan, hoping to aid him in his battle.

None of that had anything to do with the ambigious Sith race. The true Sith are from Korriban. I think I do know what you are confusing though. Revan and Malak did have some things going on beyond the outer rim but it is never said what exactly they were doing out there other than growing in numbers and power.

[Jayman87]

That, along with this specific paragraph: A year after the defeat of Malak and the collapse of the Sith Empire, Revan left the Republic, having remembered the remnants of the ancient "True Sith" he had rediscovered as the Dark Lord. Hoping to put an end to the threat it posed before it could attack the weakened Republic, Revan bade farewell to the nine comrades who had accompanied him on his quest, knowing that none whom he loved could safely accompany him in the places he had to walk.

It seems as if we are interpreting this in two distinctly different ways, but from what I remember of KOTOR 2 and the aforementioned paragraph, Revan is preparing for a greater threat. That's why he conquered the galaxy, so he could unite everyone under one military banner to battle whatever was coming. You'll note that he remembered remnants of the true Sith, and while this does not necessarily state that he knows the whereabouts of a living species, it is implied that he is going off to battle them. Seriously... am I the only one that remembers all of this from KOTOR 2? I'm pretty sure Freya gives hints to this as well throughout different parts of the game. Then again though, I talked to nearly every NPC I could find through KOTOR 2 and listened as intently as possible, so it's possible that some of you didn't see the same dialogue that I did. At any rate, Revan did disappear after KOTOR, and it's stated somewhere that he went off to confront a greater evil (presumably an unknown form of the Sith).

UPDATE: Don't know how I missed this, but check it outL:

Revan was a Jedi Knight and General that embraced the dark side during the Mandalorian Wars. An unparalleled military tactician in his time, he led the Galactic Republic to victory over the Mandalorians, but after the war he claimed the title "Dark Lord of the Sith", founded a powerful new Sith Empire, and deployed his forces against the Republic, thereby sparking a conflict known as the Jedi Civil War. Darth Revan's brutally efficient invasion was supposedly part of a complex plan to secure the Galaxy from a long-hidden threat known as the "True Sith". His forces swiftly conquered a significant portion of the Republic's territory, but at the height of his power, the Jedi set a trap for Revan and he was captured, in part, due to the betrayal of his apprentice Darth Malak. Once in their custody, the Jedi Council opted to replace the Sith Lord's identity with one loyal to the Republic. Despite eventually discovering his former identity as the Dark Lord, Revan redeemed himself by abandoning the dark side, defeating Malak, and ending the very war that he had begun. Shortly thereafter, he departed for the Unknown Regions in a solitary quest to defeat the "True Sith".

See? Proves I'm not crazy and making things up at least, and I feel better about my memory seeing how I remember all of that from a year or two ago. He's in the Unknown Regions, beyond the Outer Rim, to defeat the "True Sith".